{"id":92897,"date":"2026-01-27T19:41:11","date_gmt":"2026-01-27T17:41:11","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/centcols.org\/?p=92897"},"modified":"2026-07-29T16:39:08","modified_gmt":"2026-07-29T14:39:08","slug":"cols-de-redondet-y-cols-des-champs","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/centcols.org\/es\/cols-de-redondet-et-cols-des-champs\/","title":{"rendered":"Los cols de Redondet y los cols de Les Champs"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Pregunta: En el Chauvot aparecen dos puertos con el mismo nombre. \u00bfSe trata de un mismo puerto o de dos puertos diferentes que pueden incluirse en nuestras listas anuales?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Ejemplos:<br>- los puertos de Redondet (FR-15-1531 y FR-15-1640)<br>- les cols des Champs (FR-04-2093 y FR-04-2040)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Respuesta:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>1) \u00bfHay uno o dos puertos de Redondet?<\/strong><br>Referencias: ninguno de estos dos puertos cuenta con un cartel en la cima (en 2002\u2026).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>\u00bfQu\u00e9 dice Michelin?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"393\" height=\"243\" src=\"https:\/\/centcols.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/col-de-redondet_michelin.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-92899\" srcset=\"https:\/\/centcols.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/col-de-redondet_michelin.jpg 393w, https:\/\/centcols.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/col-de-redondet_michelin-18x12.jpg 18w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 393px) 100vw, 393px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">El Col de Redondet est\u00e1 marcado &gt;.&lt; en la carretera (D17) a una altitud de 1531m. Este paso se nombra en el mapa.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>\u00bfQu\u00e9 dice el IGN?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"397\" height=\"209\" src=\"https:\/\/centcols.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/col-de-redondet_ign.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-92900\" srcset=\"https:\/\/centcols.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/col-de-redondet_ign.jpg 397w, https:\/\/centcols.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/col-de-redondet_ign-18x9.jpg 18w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 397px) 100vw, 397px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Col de Redondet es un puerto <strong><em>arriero<\/em><\/strong> situado a una altitud de 1640 m, a 700 m en l\u00ednea recta del paso de la carretera Michelin.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2013 \u00bfSe puede considerar que se trata del mismo puerto, pero con dos altitudes diferentes, como en el caso de un puerto de cresta al que se le suma un t\u00fanel que pasa por debajo? No lo creo, ya que el primer puerto (carretero) se encuentra en una cresta orientada de este a oeste y comunica un valle al norte (circo del Falgoux) con otro al sur, mientras que el segundo puerto de Redondet (de mulas) se encuentra en una cresta m\u00e1s bien de norte a sur y comunica un valle al oeste con otro al este. \u00abGeogr\u00e1ficamente\u00bb, existe <strong>DOS<\/strong> diferentes puertos.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2013 \u00bfQui\u00e9n tiene raz\u00f3n, si Michelin o el IGN?<br>Yo me inclinar\u00eda por el IGN... pero si echas un vistazo a las numerosas p\u00e1ginas web que mencionan el Col de Redondet, TODAS hacen referencia al puerto de carretera. Esto se ha convertido en una pr\u00e1ctica habitual y no se entender\u00eda que se eliminara la versi\u00f3n de carretera de este puerto en nombre del mapa del IGN.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-black-color has-text-color has-link-color wp-elements-1 wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Conclusi\u00f3n<\/strong>&nbsp;Redondet: sigue habiendo dos pasos de Redondet en el Chauvot y los miembros de la Cofrad\u00eda pueden declarar dos pasos de este nombre en sus listas, ya que en realidad hay dos pasos diferentes.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>2) El Col des Champs.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>\u00bfQu\u00e9 dice Michelin?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"336\" height=\"227\" src=\"https:\/\/centcols.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/col-des-champs_michelin.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-92901\" srcset=\"https:\/\/centcols.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/col-des-champs_michelin.jpg 336w, https:\/\/centcols.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/col-des-champs_michelin-18x12.jpg 18w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 336px) 100vw, 336px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">El Col des Champs est\u00e1 perfectamente simbolizado FUERA de la carretera, en una pista m\u00e1s al norte.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>\u00bfQu\u00e9 dice el IGN?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"411\" height=\"430\" src=\"https:\/\/centcols.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/col-des-champs_ign.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-92902\" srcset=\"https:\/\/centcols.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/col-des-champs_ign.jpg 411w, https:\/\/centcols.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/col-des-champs_ign-11x12.jpg 11w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 411px) 100vw, 411px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">El Col des Champs est\u00e1 claramente se\u00f1alizado a 2045 m, en una pista por debajo de la carretera. No hay pasos indicados en esta carretera.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u00bfPor qu\u00e9 existe entonces un \u00abpaso de los Champs\u00bb por carretera (FR-04-2093)? Simplemente porque hay una se\u00f1al de la DDE que lo indica en la carretera, en el punto \u00abP\u00bb del mapa anterior.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"604\" height=\"174\" src=\"https:\/\/centcols.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/cols-des-champs_elargi.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-92903\" srcset=\"https:\/\/centcols.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/cols-des-champs_elargi.jpg 604w, https:\/\/centcols.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/cols-des-champs_elargi-18x5.jpg 18w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 604px) 100vw, 604px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Paso de carretera (se\u00f1al). A la derecha, Col des Champs \u00abg\u00e9ographique\u00bb IGN 2045m.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"320\" height=\"240\" src=\"https:\/\/centcols.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/cols-des-champs_annotations.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-92904\" srcset=\"https:\/\/centcols.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/cols-des-champs_annotations.jpg 320w, https:\/\/centcols.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/cols-des-champs_annotations-16x12.jpg 16w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 320px) 100vw, 320px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u00bfExisten DOS puertos de los Campos en la topograf\u00eda de la zona?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">No, porque las rutas \u00abde carretera\u00bb y \u00abde mulas\u00bb conectan los mismos valles (Var al este, Verdon al oeste). No estamos en la misma situaci\u00f3n que los pasos de Redondet.<br>Por tanto, es el <em><strong>mismo pasaje<\/strong><\/em>.<br>As\u00ed pues, tenemos tres referencias:<br>- se\u00f1al (en la carretera)<br>- Mapa Michelin (Col des Champs Muletier al norte de la carretera)<br>- Mapa IGN (Col des Champs Muletier al norte de la carretera)<br>Me inclinar\u00eda a decir que la se\u00f1al es minoritaria y que se ha colocado indebidamente en la carretera...<br>Pero tambi\u00e9n en este caso, la tradici\u00f3n dicta que el Col des Champs se atraviese por carretera, y nadie entender\u00eda que s\u00f3lo quedara el camino de herradura del Chauvot.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-black-color has-text-color has-link-color wp-elements-2 wp-block-paragraph\">\u00bfHay que incluir dos puertos de los Champs en la lista anual? Creo que no, ya que se trata del mismo tramo.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Feliz collaring a todos.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Ren\u00e9 Poty<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Nota del editor: este art\u00edculo data de principios de la d\u00e9cada de 2000. En 2026, el Grupo de Trabajo de los puertos de Francia zanj\u00f3 la cuesti\u00f3n del puerto de Les Champs. Solo hay un puerto que declarar en su lista, uno u otro, a elegir. Al igual que ocurre con los puertos con t\u00fanel, que son dos pasos del mismo puerto.<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Question&nbsp;: le Chauvot fait appara\u00eetre des cols portant le m\u00eame nom. S&rsquo;agit-il d&rsquo;un seul et m\u00eame col ou bien de deux cols diff\u00e9rents pouvant \u00eatre port\u00e9s sur nos listes annuelles&nbsp;? Exemples&nbsp;:&#8211; les cols de Redondet (FR-15-1531 et FR-15-1640)&#8211; les cols des Champs (FR-04-2093 et FR-04-2040) R\u00e9ponse&nbsp;: 1) Existe-t-il un ou deux cols de Redondet&nbsp;?Les r\u00e9f\u00e9rences&nbsp;: [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1726,"featured_media":93256,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":"","_members_access_role":[],"_members_access_error":""},"categories":[308],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-92897","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-cols-en-vrac"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v28.4 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Les cols de Redondet et cols des Champs - Club des Cent Cols<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/centcols.org\/es\/album\/thiaucourt-2025\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"es_ES\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Les cols de Redondet et cols des Champs - Club des Cent Cols\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Question&nbsp;: le Chauvot fait appara\u00eetre des cols portant le m\u00eame nom. 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