{"id":92897,"date":"2026-01-27T19:41:11","date_gmt":"2026-01-27T17:41:11","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/centcols.org\/?p=92897"},"modified":"2026-07-29T16:39:08","modified_gmt":"2026-07-29T14:39:08","slug":"cols-de-redondet-e-cols-des-champs","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/centcols.org\/it\/cols-de-redondet-et-cols-des-champs\/","title":{"rendered":"I cols di Redondet e i cols dei Champs"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Domanda: nell\u2019opera di Chauvot compaiono passi che portano lo stesso nome. Si tratta di un unico passo o di due passi diversi che possono essere inseriti nei nostri elenchi annuali?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Esempi:<br>- i passi di Redondet (FR-15-1531 e FR-15-1640)<br>- i colli dei Campi (FR-04-2093 e FR-04-2040)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Risposta:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>1) Esiste un solo passo di Redondet o ce ne sono due?<\/strong><br>Note: nessuno dei due passi \u00e8 dotato di un cartello in vetta (nel 2002\u2026).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Cosa dice Michelin?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"393\" height=\"243\" src=\"https:\/\/centcols.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/col-de-redondet_michelin.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-92899\" srcset=\"https:\/\/centcols.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/col-de-redondet_michelin.jpg 393w, https:\/\/centcols.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/col-de-redondet_michelin-18x12.jpg 18w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 393px) 100vw, 393px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Il Col de Redondet \u00e8 segnato &gt;.&lt; sulla strada (D17) a 1531 m di altitudine. Questo passo \u00e8 nominato sulla carta.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Cosa dice l'IGN?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"397\" height=\"209\" src=\"https:\/\/centcols.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/col-de-redondet_ign.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-92900\" srcset=\"https:\/\/centcols.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/col-de-redondet_ign.jpg 397w, https:\/\/centcols.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/col-de-redondet_ign-18x9.jpg 18w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 397px) 100vw, 397px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Col de Redondet \u00e8 un passo <strong><em>conducente di muli<\/em><\/strong> situato a 1640 m di altitudine, a 700 m in linea d'aria dal passo della strada Michelin.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2013 Si pu\u00f2 ritenere che si tratti dello stesso passo, ma con due diverse altitudini, come nel caso di un passo di crinale affiancato da una galleria che passa al di sotto? Non credo, poich\u00e9 il primo passo (stradale) si trova su una cresta orientata da est a ovest e collega una valle a nord (circo del Falgoux) con una valle a sud, mentre il secondo passo di Redondet (per mulatti) si trova su una cresta orientata piuttosto da nord a sud e collega una valle a ovest e un\u2019altra a est. \u00abGeograficamente\u00bb, esiste effettivamente <strong>DUE<\/strong> passi diversi.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2013 Ma chi ha ragione, Michelin o l\u2019IGN?<br>Sarei propenso a dire l'IGN... ma se si guarda ai numerosi siti web che menzionano il Col de Redondet, tutti si riferiscono al passo stradale. Questa \u00e8 diventata una pratica comune e sarebbe fraintendibile se la versione stradale di questo passo venisse eliminata nel nome della mappa IGN.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-black-color has-text-color has-link-color wp-elements-1 wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Conclusione<\/strong>&nbsp;Redondet: ci sono ancora due passi Redondet nello Chauvot e i membri della Confr\u00e9rie possono dichiarare due passi con questo nome nelle loro liste, dato che ci sono in realt\u00e0 due passi diversi.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>2) Il Col des Champs.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Cosa dice Michelin?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"336\" height=\"227\" src=\"https:\/\/centcols.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/col-des-champs_michelin.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-92901\" srcset=\"https:\/\/centcols.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/col-des-champs_michelin.jpg 336w, https:\/\/centcols.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/col-des-champs_michelin-18x12.jpg 18w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 336px) 100vw, 336px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Il Col des Champs \u00e8 perfettamente simboleggiato al di fuori della strada, su una pista pi\u00f9 a nord.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Cosa dice l'IGN?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"411\" height=\"430\" src=\"https:\/\/centcols.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/col-des-champs_ign.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-92902\" srcset=\"https:\/\/centcols.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/col-des-champs_ign.jpg 411w, https:\/\/centcols.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/col-des-champs_ign-11x12.jpg 11w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 411px) 100vw, 411px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Il Col des Champs \u00e8 chiaramente segnalato a 2045 m, su un sentiero sotto la strada. Su questa strada non \u00e8 indicato alcun passo.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Perch\u00e9 esiste un \u00abCol des Champs\u00bb stradale (FR-04-2093)? Semplicemente perch\u00e9 un cartello del DDE lo indica sulla strada nel punto contrassegnato con la lettera \u00abP\u00bb sulla mappa qui sopra.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"604\" height=\"174\" src=\"https:\/\/centcols.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/cols-des-champs_elargi.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-92903\" srcset=\"https:\/\/centcols.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/cols-des-champs_elargi.jpg 604w, https:\/\/centcols.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/cols-des-champs_elargi-18x5.jpg 18w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 604px) 100vw, 604px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Passo stradale (cartello). A destra, il Col des Champs \u00abg\u00e9ographique\u00bb IGN 2045m.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"320\" height=\"240\" src=\"https:\/\/centcols.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/cols-des-champs_annotations.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-92904\" srcset=\"https:\/\/centcols.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/cols-des-champs_annotations.jpg 320w, https:\/\/centcols.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/cols-des-champs_annotations-16x12.jpg 16w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 320px) 100vw, 320px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Esistono DUE passi dei Champs nella topografia della zona?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">No, perch\u00e9 le vie \u00abstradali\u00bb e \u00abmulattiere\u00bb collegano le stesse valli (Var a est, Verdon a ovest). Non siamo nella stessa situazione dei passi di Redondet.<br>\u00c8 quindi il <em><strong>stesso passaggio<\/strong><\/em>.<br>Abbiamo quindi tre riferimenti:<br>- cartello (sulla strada)<br>- Carta Michelin (Col des Champs Muletier a nord della strada)<br>- Mappa IGN (Col des Champs Muletier a nord della strada)<br>Sono propenso a dire che il cartello \u00e8 in minoranza e che \u00e8 stato collocato impropriamente sulla strada...<br>Anche in questo caso, per\u00f2, la tradizione vuole che il Col des Champs venga attraversato su strada, e nessuno capirebbe se fosse rimasta solo la mulattiera dello Chauvot.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-black-color has-text-color has-link-color wp-elements-2 wp-block-paragraph\">\u00c8 necessario includere due \u00abCol des Champs\u00bb nella lista annuale? Credo di no, poich\u00e9 si tratta dello stesso tratto.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Buon passo a tutti.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Ren\u00e9 Poty<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Nota dell'editore: questo articolo risale ai primi anni 2000. Nel 2026, il Gruppo di lavoro sui passi francesi ha risolto la questione del Col des Champs. C'\u00e8 un solo passo da inserire nella lista, a scelta l'uno o l'altro. Come per i passi con galleria, che sono due passaggi dello stesso passo.<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Question&nbsp;: le Chauvot fait appara\u00eetre des cols portant le m\u00eame nom. S&rsquo;agit-il d&rsquo;un seul et m\u00eame col ou bien de deux cols diff\u00e9rents pouvant \u00eatre port\u00e9s sur nos listes annuelles&nbsp;? Exemples&nbsp;:&#8211; les cols de Redondet (FR-15-1531 et FR-15-1640)&#8211; les cols des Champs (FR-04-2093 et FR-04-2040) R\u00e9ponse&nbsp;: 1) Existe-t-il un ou deux cols de Redondet&nbsp;?Les r\u00e9f\u00e9rences&nbsp;: [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1726,"featured_media":93256,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":"","_members_access_role":[],"_members_access_error":""},"categories":[308],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-92897","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-cols-en-vrac"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v28.4 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Les cols de Redondet et cols des Champs - Club des Cent Cols<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/centcols.org\/it\/album\/thiaucourt-2025\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"it_IT\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Les cols de Redondet et cols des Champs - Club des Cent Cols\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Question&nbsp;: le Chauvot fait appara\u00eetre des cols portant le m\u00eame nom. 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