{"id":92897,"date":"2026-01-27T19:41:11","date_gmt":"2026-01-27T17:41:11","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/centcols.org\/?p=92897"},"modified":"2026-02-18T12:21:06","modified_gmt":"2026-02-18T10:21:06","slug":"cols-de-redondet-e-cols-des-champs","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/centcols.org\/it\/cols-de-redondet-et-cols-des-champs\/","title":{"rendered":"Cols de Redondet e Cols des Champs"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Domanda: il Chauvot mostra collari con lo stesso nome. Si tratta di un unico pass o di due pass diversi che possono essere inseriti nelle nostre liste annuali?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Esempi:<br>- i passi di Redondet (FR-15-1531 e FR-15-1640)<br>- i colli dei Campi (FR-04-2093 e FR-04-2040)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Risposta:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>1) Ci sono uno o due passaggi Redondet?<\/strong><br>Riferimenti: nessuno dei due passi ha un cartello di vetta (nel 2002...).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Cosa dice la Michelin?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"393\" height=\"243\" src=\"https:\/\/centcols.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/col-de-redondet_michelin.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-92899\" srcset=\"https:\/\/centcols.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/col-de-redondet_michelin.jpg 393w, https:\/\/centcols.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/col-de-redondet_michelin-18x12.jpg 18w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 393px) 100vw, 393px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Il Col de Redondet \u00e8 segnato &gt;.&lt; sulla strada (D17) a 1531 m di altitudine. Questo passo \u00e8 nominato sulla carta.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Cosa dice l'IGN?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"397\" height=\"209\" src=\"https:\/\/centcols.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/col-de-redondet_ign.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-92900\" srcset=\"https:\/\/centcols.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/col-de-redondet_ign.jpg 397w, https:\/\/centcols.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/col-de-redondet_ign-18x9.jpg 18w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 397px) 100vw, 397px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Il Col de Redondet \u00e8 un passo <strong><em>conducente di muli<\/em><\/strong> situato a 1640 m di altitudine, a 700 m in linea d'aria dal passo della strada Michelin.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>- Possiamo considerare che si tratta dello stesso passo ma con due quote diverse, come nel caso di un passo di cresta con una galleria che passa sotto? Non credo, perch\u00e9 il primo passo (stradale) si trova su una cresta Est-Ovest e collega una valle a Nord (circo di Falgoux) e una valle a Sud, mentre il secondo passo (mulattiera) di Redondet si trova su una cresta Nord-Sud e collega una valle a Ovest e un'altra a Est. \u00abGeograficamente parlando <strong>DUE<\/strong> collari diversi.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>- Ma chi ha ragione tra Michelin e IGN?<br>Sarei propenso a dire l'IGN... ma se si guarda ai numerosi siti web che menzionano il Col de Redondet, tutti si riferiscono al passo stradale. Questa \u00e8 diventata una pratica comune e sarebbe fraintendibile se la versione stradale di questo passo venisse eliminata nel nome della mappa IGN.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-black-color has-text-color has-link-color wp-elements-ac1695946044046a9ae09f889a5a97a2\"><strong>Conclusione<\/strong> Redondet: ci sono ancora due passi Redondet nello Chauvot e i membri della Confr\u00e9rie possono dichiarare due passi con questo nome nelle loro liste, dato che ci sono in realt\u00e0 due passi diversi.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>2) Il Col des Champs.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Cosa dice la Michelin?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"336\" height=\"227\" src=\"https:\/\/centcols.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/col-des-champs_michelin.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-92901\" srcset=\"https:\/\/centcols.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/col-des-champs_michelin.jpg 336w, https:\/\/centcols.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/col-des-champs_michelin-18x12.jpg 18w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 336px) 100vw, 336px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Il Col des Champs \u00e8 perfettamente simboleggiato al di fuori della strada, su una pista pi\u00f9 a nord.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Cosa dice l'IGN?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"411\" height=\"430\" src=\"https:\/\/centcols.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/col-des-champs_ign.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-92902\" srcset=\"https:\/\/centcols.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/col-des-champs_ign.jpg 411w, https:\/\/centcols.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/col-des-champs_ign-11x12.jpg 11w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 411px) 100vw, 411px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Il Col des Champs \u00e8 chiaramente segnalato a 2045 m, su un sentiero sotto la strada. Su questa strada non \u00e8 indicato alcun passo.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Perch\u00e9 esiste una \u00abstrada\u00bb Col des Champs (FR-04-2093)? Semplicemente perch\u00e9 un cartello DDE lo indica sulla strada al punto \u00abP\u00bb della mappa qui sopra.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"604\" height=\"174\" src=\"https:\/\/centcols.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/cols-des-champs_elargi.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-92903\" srcset=\"https:\/\/centcols.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/cols-des-champs_elargi.jpg 604w, https:\/\/centcols.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/cols-des-champs_elargi-18x5.jpg 18w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 604px) 100vw, 604px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Passo stradale (cartello). A destra, il Col des Champs \u00abg\u00e9ographique\u00bb IGN 2045m.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"320\" height=\"240\" src=\"https:\/\/centcols.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/cols-des-champs_annotations.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-92904\" srcset=\"https:\/\/centcols.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/cols-des-champs_annotations.jpg 320w, https:\/\/centcols.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/cols-des-champs_annotations-16x12.jpg 16w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 320px) 100vw, 320px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Ci sono DUE cols des Champs nella topografia locale?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>No, perch\u00e9 le vie \u00abstradali\u00bb e \u00abmulattiere\u00bb collegano le stesse valli (Var a est, Verdon a ovest). Non siamo nella stessa situazione dei passi di Redondet.<br>\u00c8 quindi il <em><strong>stesso passaggio<\/strong><\/em>.<br>Abbiamo quindi tre riferimenti:<br>- cartello (sulla strada)<br>- Carta Michelin (Col des Champs Muletier a nord della strada)<br>- Mappa IGN (Col des Champs Muletier a nord della strada)<br>Sono propenso a dire che il cartello \u00e8 in minoranza e che \u00e8 stato collocato impropriamente sulla strada...<br>Anche in questo caso, per\u00f2, la tradizione vuole che il Col des Champs venga attraversato su strada, e nessuno capirebbe se fosse rimasta solo la mulattiera dello Chauvot.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-black-color has-text-color has-link-color wp-elements-e7f6ba817c52029436a16c71e208e805\">Dovrebbe includere due Col des Champs nella sua lista annuale? Non credo, visto che si tratta dello stesso passo.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Buon collare a tutti.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Ren\u00e9 Poty<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Nota dell'editore: questo articolo risale ai primi anni 2000. Nel 2026, il Groupe de Travail des Cols de France ha risolto la questione del Col des Champs. Nella sua lista c'\u00e8 un solo passo da dichiarare, o l'uno o l'altro. Come per i passi in galleria, che sono due passaggi sullo stesso valico.<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Question : le Chauvot fait appara\u00eetre des cols portant le m\u00eame nom. S&rsquo;agit-il d&rsquo;un seul et m\u00eame col ou bien de deux cols diff\u00e9rents pouvant \u00eatre port\u00e9s sur nos listes annuelles ? Exemples :&#8211; les cols de Redondet (FR-15-1531 et FR-15-1640)&#8211; les cols des Champs (FR-04-2093 et FR-04-2040) R\u00e9ponse : 1) Existe-t-il un ou deux [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1726,"featured_media":93256,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[308],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-92897","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-cols-en-vrac"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.2 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Cols de Redondet et cols des Champs - Club des Cent Cols<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/centcols.org\/it\/cols-de-redondet-e-cols-des-champs\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"it_IT\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Cols de Redondet et cols des Champs - Club des Cent Cols\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Question : le Chauvot fait appara\u00eetre des cols portant le m\u00eame nom. 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