{"id":92897,"date":"2026-01-27T19:41:11","date_gmt":"2026-01-27T17:41:11","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/centcols.org\/?p=92897"},"modified":"2026-02-18T12:21:06","modified_gmt":"2026-02-18T10:21:06","slug":"cols-de-redondet-e-cols-des-champs","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/centcols.org\/it\/cols-de-redondet-et-cols-des-champs\/","title":{"rendered":"Cols de Redondet e Cols des Champs"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Question&nbsp;: le Chauvot fait appara\u00eetre des cols portant le m\u00eame nom. S&rsquo;agit-il d&rsquo;un seul et m\u00eame col ou bien de deux cols diff\u00e9rents pouvant \u00eatre port\u00e9s sur nos listes annuelles&nbsp;?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Exemples&nbsp;:<br>- i passi di Redondet (FR-15-1531 e FR-15-1640)<br>- i colli dei Campi (FR-04-2093 e FR-04-2040)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Risposta:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>1) Existe-t-il un ou deux cols de Redondet&nbsp;?<\/strong><br>Les r\u00e9f\u00e9rences&nbsp;: aucun de ces deux cols ne porte un panneau sommital (en 2002&#8230;).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Que dit Michelin&nbsp;?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"393\" height=\"243\" src=\"https:\/\/centcols.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/col-de-redondet_michelin.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-92899\" srcset=\"https:\/\/centcols.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/col-de-redondet_michelin.jpg 393w, https:\/\/centcols.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/col-de-redondet_michelin-18x12.jpg 18w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 393px) 100vw, 393px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Il Col de Redondet \u00e8 segnato &gt;.&lt; sulla strada (D17) a 1531 m di altitudine. Questo passo \u00e8 nominato sulla carta.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Que dit l&rsquo;IGN&nbsp;?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"397\" height=\"209\" src=\"https:\/\/centcols.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/col-de-redondet_ign.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-92900\" srcset=\"https:\/\/centcols.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/col-de-redondet_ign.jpg 397w, https:\/\/centcols.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/col-de-redondet_ign-18x9.jpg 18w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 397px) 100vw, 397px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Il Col de Redondet \u00e8 un passo <strong><em>conducente di muli<\/em><\/strong> situato a 1640 m di altitudine, a 700 m in linea d'aria dal passo della strada Michelin.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8211; Peut-on consid\u00e9rer qu&rsquo;il s&rsquo;agit du m\u00eame col mais avec deux altitudes diff\u00e9rentes comme dans le cas d&rsquo;un col de cr\u00eate doubl\u00e9 d&rsquo;un tunnel qui passe en dessous&nbsp;? Je ne le pense pas car le premier col (routier) est situ\u00e9 sur une cr\u00eate orient\u00e9e Est-Ouest et fait communiquer une vall\u00e9e au nord (cirque du Falgoux) et une vall\u00e9e au Sud, alors que le second col de Redondet (muletier) est situ\u00e9 sur une cr\u00eate plut\u00f4t Nord-Sud et fait communiquer une vall\u00e9e \u00e0 l&rsquo;Ouest et une autre \u00e0 l&rsquo;Est. \u00ab\u00a0G\u00e9ographiquement\u00a0\u00bb, il existe bien <strong>DUE<\/strong> collari diversi.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8211; Mais qui a raison entre Michelin et l&rsquo;IGN&nbsp;?<br>Sarei propenso a dire l'IGN... ma se si guarda ai numerosi siti web che menzionano il Col de Redondet, tutti si riferiscono al passo stradale. Questa \u00e8 diventata una pratica comune e sarebbe fraintendibile se la versione stradale di questo passo venisse eliminata nel nome della mappa IGN.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-black-color has-text-color has-link-color wp-elements-f7f455d8dac5419ee2f252b43fc8f8c6\"><strong>Conclusione<\/strong>&nbsp;Redondet: ci sono ancora due passi Redondet nello Chauvot e i membri della Confr\u00e9rie possono dichiarare due passi con questo nome nelle loro liste, dato che ci sono in realt\u00e0 due passi diversi.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>2) Il Col des Champs.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Que dit Michelin&nbsp;?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"336\" height=\"227\" src=\"https:\/\/centcols.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/col-des-champs_michelin.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-92901\" srcset=\"https:\/\/centcols.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/col-des-champs_michelin.jpg 336w, https:\/\/centcols.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/col-des-champs_michelin-18x12.jpg 18w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 336px) 100vw, 336px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Il Col des Champs \u00e8 perfettamente simboleggiato al di fuori della strada, su una pista pi\u00f9 a nord.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Que dit l&rsquo;IGN&nbsp;?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"411\" height=\"430\" src=\"https:\/\/centcols.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/col-des-champs_ign.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-92902\" srcset=\"https:\/\/centcols.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/col-des-champs_ign.jpg 411w, https:\/\/centcols.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/col-des-champs_ign-11x12.jpg 11w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 411px) 100vw, 411px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Il Col des Champs \u00e8 chiaramente segnalato a 2045 m, su un sentiero sotto la strada. Su questa strada non \u00e8 indicato alcun passo.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Pourquoi donc existe-t-il un col des Champs \u00ab\u00a0routier\u00a0\u00bb (FR-04-2093)&nbsp;? Par le simple fait qu&rsquo;une pancarte DDE l&rsquo;indique sur la route \u00e0 l&#8217;emplacement de \u00ab\u00a0P\u00a0\u00bb sur la carte ci-dessus.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"604\" height=\"174\" src=\"https:\/\/centcols.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/cols-des-champs_elargi.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-92903\" srcset=\"https:\/\/centcols.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/cols-des-champs_elargi.jpg 604w, https:\/\/centcols.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/cols-des-champs_elargi-18x5.jpg 18w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 604px) 100vw, 604px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Passo stradale (cartello). A destra, il Col des Champs \u00abg\u00e9ographique\u00bb IGN 2045m.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"320\" height=\"240\" src=\"https:\/\/centcols.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/cols-des-champs_annotations.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-92904\" srcset=\"https:\/\/centcols.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/cols-des-champs_annotations.jpg 320w, https:\/\/centcols.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/cols-des-champs_annotations-16x12.jpg 16w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 320px) 100vw, 320px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Existe-t-il DEUX cols des Champs dans la topographie des lieux&nbsp;?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>No, perch\u00e9 le vie \u00abstradali\u00bb e \u00abmulattiere\u00bb collegano le stesse valli (Var a est, Verdon a ovest). Non siamo nella stessa situazione dei passi di Redondet.<br>\u00c8 quindi il <em><strong>stesso passaggio<\/strong><\/em>.<br>Nous avons donc trois r\u00e9f\u00e9rences&nbsp;:<br>- cartello (sulla strada)<br>- Carta Michelin (Col des Champs Muletier a nord della strada)<br>- Mappa IGN (Col des Champs Muletier a nord della strada)<br>Sono propenso a dire che il cartello \u00e8 in minoranza e che \u00e8 stato collocato impropriamente sulla strada...<br>Anche in questo caso, per\u00f2, la tradizione vuole che il Col des Champs venga attraversato su strada, e nessuno capirebbe se fosse rimasta solo la mulattiera dello Chauvot.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-black-color has-text-color has-link-color wp-elements-eae72f3b7180173704ac84a03fcb4505\">Faut-il compter deux cols des Champs dans sa liste annuelle&nbsp;? Je pense que non car il s&rsquo;agit du m\u00eame passage.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Buon collare a tutti.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Ren\u00e9 Poty<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>NDLR&nbsp;: cet article date du d\u00e9but des ann\u00e9es 2000. En 2026, le Groupe de travail des cols de France a tranch\u00e9 la question du col des Champs. Il n&rsquo;y a qu&rsquo;un col \u00e0 d\u00e9clarer sur sa liste, l&rsquo;un ou l&rsquo;autre au choix. Comme pour les cols tunnels qui sont deux passages du m\u00eame col.<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Question&nbsp;: le Chauvot fait appara\u00eetre des cols portant le m\u00eame nom. S&rsquo;agit-il d&rsquo;un seul et m\u00eame col ou bien de deux cols diff\u00e9rents pouvant \u00eatre port\u00e9s sur nos listes annuelles&nbsp;? Exemples&nbsp;:&#8211; les cols de Redondet (FR-15-1531 et FR-15-1640)&#8211; les cols des Champs (FR-04-2093 et FR-04-2040) R\u00e9ponse&nbsp;: 1) Existe-t-il un ou deux cols de Redondet&nbsp;?Les r\u00e9f\u00e9rences&nbsp;: [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1726,"featured_media":93256,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[308],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-92897","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-cols-en-vrac"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.2 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Cols de Redondet et cols des Champs - Club des Cent Cols<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/centcols.org\/it\/cols-de-redondet-e-cols-des-champs\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"it_IT\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Cols de Redondet et cols des Champs - Club des Cent Cols\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Question&nbsp;: le Chauvot fait appara\u00eetre des cols portant le m\u00eame nom. 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