{"id":80450,"date":"2001-01-09T17:31:16","date_gmt":"2001-01-09T15:31:16","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/centcols.org\/etymologie-du-toponyme-tourniol-col-de-tourniol\/"},"modified":"2025-09-12T08:43:33","modified_gmt":"2025-09-12T06:43:33","slug":"etymologie-van-de-plaatsnaam-tourniol-col-de-tourniol","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/centcols.org\/nl\/etymologie-du-toponyme-tourniol-col-de-tourniol\/","title":{"rendered":"Etymologie van de plaatsnaam Tourniol (Col de Tourniol)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Ik heb wat informatie uit de Dictionnaire Historique de la Langue Fran\u00e7aise (DHLF) gehaald die die van de Grand Robert bevestigt:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Torgnole (1761) is een grafische variant van torniole, tourniole (c. 1225) \u00abcirkelvormige beweging, afleidingen\u00bb afgeleid van het werkwoord torniier, torno\u00fcer, een variant (c. 1180) van tournoyer, dat in de dialecten is blijven bestaan. Om de grafische originaliteit van torgnole te verklaren, beroept P. Guiraud zich op de aantrekkingskracht van trogne, trognon, maar de mondelinge overgang van torniole naar torgnole is natuurlijk en ongevoelig.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Tournoyer: \u00abbochten beschrijven zonder weg te gaan\u00bb. Concreet betekende het \u00abeen omleiding maken\u00bb (v. 1180).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Deze informatie wordt bevestigd in Jacqueline Picoche's Dictionnaire Etymologique du Fran\u00e7ais (die een originele methode gebruikt die erin bestaat complexe artikelen te beginnen met woorden van populaire formatie en het eenvoudigste populaire woord in de hele familie, dat vaak het oudste is, als ingang voor het artikel te nemen. Zo vind je t\u00e9l\u00e9phone onder antienne, cycliste onder quenouille en cyclotourisme onder tourner).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Rechtvaardigt het feit dat er nu een departementale weg is die, met zijn reeks kronkels en bochten onder de pas, het idee van twirling zou kunnen suggereren, de etymologie van de plaatsnaam \u00abTourniol\u00bb die van deze woorden is afgeleid (torgnole, tournoyer, tourner)?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Niets is minder zeker, in feite is de naamgeving van plaatsen extreem oud, het is het werk van de eerste bewoners (enkele millennia geleden) en werd mondeling overgedragen van eeuw tot eeuw om te worden verzameld (en mogelijk vastgelegd in documenten) tussen de 9e en 11e eeuw (op zijn best). Het is over het algemeen een gewone naam die een fysiek kenmerk van het landschap beschrijft met een gevoeligheid die nu volledig uit onze taal is verdwenen (maar die misschien beter bewaard is gebleven in een dialect). Dit toponiem evolueert dan tot een eigennaam waarvan we meestal geen idee meer hebben van de precieze betekenis die er oorspronkelijk aan gegeven werd.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Hier is de mening van een paar oronymiespecialisten:<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Volgens Alain Nouvel verklaart de wortel \u00b0tur gevonden in het Chamito-Semitisch, Oeral-Alta\u00efsch, Dravidisch, Indo-Europees, enz. de vormen tur-, tor-, tour-. Deze wortel roept het idee van hoogte op. De wortel TUR-N- (\u00abhoogte\u00bb) kan een uitbreiding zijn van de Keltische wortel \u00b0tur, gevonden in Tournon (Ard.), Tournes (Ard., P. de C.), Thorn (Romeinse weg van Maastricht naar Nimegue). In het Oudfrans vinden we turel, tureau, thurel, turet, toron, tolon, enz. in de betekenis van heuvel, eminentie.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Volgens Andr\u00e9 Compan hebben Thor-, Thoron- en Terron een pre-indo-Europese wortel: \u00b0tor-, min of meer langgerekte of rechtlijnige hoogte, cf. cime de Tor (2151 m massif de l'Aution), pointe de Tor (Gesso en Roya). Het woord tor wordt in het Proven\u00e7aals altijd gebruikt om een heuvel, een eminence (Mistral, TDF) aan te duiden, bv. Le Thor (Vaucluse), Thoron en Terron zijn twee afgeleide vormen. Ook: Thorenc (c. Andon), Le Thoronet, een heuvel 865 m ten noordwesten van Gourdon met een pre-Romeinse ommuring, Tournon, c. Montauroux, bekend om het Romeinse oppidum van Collet Redoun, etc.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Tot slot koppelt Ch. Rostaing Tournoux (Ubaye) en Tournefort (Tin\u00e9e-vallei) aan deze wortel.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Het achtervoegsel -ol wordt beschouwd als een verkleinwoord.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Het zou natuurlijk interessant zijn om de oude kadasters van de gemeenten Chaffal, Barbi\u00e8res, St Vincent, Peyrus, enz. te raadplegen. Het zou natuurlijk interessant zijn om de oude kadasters van de gemeenten Chaffal, Barbi\u00e8res, St Vincent, Peyrus, enz. te raadplegen, evenals de cartularia, charters en registers, die in deze regio overvloedig aanwezig zijn door de aanwezigheid van de abdij van L\u00e9oncel, om te weten te komen hoe de plaatsnaam is ge\u00ebvolueerd tot het huidige Tourniol.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Ik heb nu geen tijd, maar ik heb mijn verzameling van de Cahiers de L\u00e9oncel geraadpleegd en dit gevonden (deel 6, p. 94): In 1213 gaf Ponce de Mirabel \u00abin puram helemosinam quicquid juris habebat a balma Sancti Romani usque ad collum de Tornym\u00bb, wat betekent \u00abin pure aalmoes (d.w.z. zonder tegenprestatie), alle rechten die hij bezat van de baume de Saint-Roman tot de col de Tourniol\u00bb. De Torn-wortel is dus al in de 13e eeuw geattesteerd, wat de hypothese bevestigt die naar voren is gebracht op basis van de argumenten van de beste toponymiespecialisten.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Het is waarschijnlijk niet zo mooi als de tourniquets, maar het is waarschijnlijker.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>Michel de Br\u00e9bisson - 15 november 2000<\/em><br><span class=\"email-protege\" data-e=\"bWljaGVsLmRlYnJlYmlzc29uQGxpYmVydHlzdXJmLmZy\" data-t=\"bWljaGVsLmRlYnJlYmlzc29uQGxpYmVydHlzdXJmLmZy\"><\/span><\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>J&rsquo;extrais du Dictionnaire Historique de la Langue Fran\u00e7aise (DHLF) quelques renseignements confirmant ceux du Grand Robert&nbsp;: Torgnole (1761) est une variante graphique de torniole, tourniole (v. 1225) \u00ab\u00a0mouvement circulaire, d\u00e9tour\u00a0\u00bb d\u00e9riv\u00e9 du verbe torniier, torno\u00fcer, variante (v. 1180) de tournoyer, rest\u00e9e dans les dialectes. Pour expliquer l&rsquo;originalit\u00e9 graphique de torgnole, P. Guiraud invoque l&rsquo;attraction de [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":89705,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":"","_members_access_role":[],"_members_access_error":""},"categories":[227],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-80450","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-toponymie"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v28.4 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Etymologie du toponyme Tourniol (Col de Tourniol) - Club des Cent Cols<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/centcols.org\/nl\/etymologie-van-de-plaatsnaam-tourniol-col-de-tourniol\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"nl_BE\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Etymologie du toponyme Tourniol (Col de Tourniol) - Club des Cent Cols\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"J&rsquo;extrais du Dictionnaire Historique de la Langue Fran\u00e7aise (DHLF) quelques renseignements confirmant ceux du Grand Robert&nbsp;: Torgnole (1761) est une variante graphique de torniole, tourniole (v. 1225) \u00ab\u00a0mouvement circulaire, d\u00e9tour\u00a0\u00bb d\u00e9riv\u00e9 du verbe torniier, torno\u00fcer, variante (v. 1180) de tournoyer, rest\u00e9e dans les dialectes. 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